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Re: Help … knackered button head hex bolt!

Posted: Feb 17th, '23, 19:55
by Mervin
just drill the head off now theres a good chance once thehead has gone the rest of the bolt will be fingertight or a pair of pliers will grip the remaining bolt piece and turn it

Re: Help … knackered button head hex bolt!

Posted: Feb 17th, '23, 20:13
by Jug
Buy a left handed drill bit as that might actually unscrew the bolt whilst you are drilling off the head.

Re: Help … knackered button head hex bolt!

Posted: Feb 18th, '23, 06:29
by Tvrv37
What material is it screwed into. Very difficult to drill steel bolts out of softer materials without cocking it up. I would centre punch the broken extractor then use a left handed drill bit. Apply some heat from a mini/kitchen blow torch first if you can do it without melting something plastic.

Re: Help … knackered button head hex bolt!

Posted: Feb 18th, '23, 17:03
by MikeZ
Just a note. When replacing that bolt, use an A4 stainless not an A2 stainless, much better and not that much more expensive.

Re: Help … knackered button head hex bolt!

Posted: Feb 18th, '23, 17:40
by banditman
These Irwin extractors are really good cos they grip the outside of the bolt

Re: Help … knackered button head hex bolt!

Posted: Feb 19th, '23, 16:05
by Robbo87
That looks a handy set of extractor sockets. I might have to indulge.

Re: Help … knackered button head hex bolt!

Posted: Feb 19th, '23, 17:39
by Ruffian
Robbo87 wrote: Feb 19th, '23, 16:05 That looks a handy set of extractor sockets. I might have to indulge.
They are mighty handy.
Irwin do 2 sets of 5 to cover all normal sizes. And they do bite in very very hard which is brilliant.

I have abused mine and then some. Wouldn't be without a set now.

Re: Help … knackered button head hex bolt!

Posted: Feb 19th, '23, 17:43
by Robbo87
Ruffian wrote: Feb 19th, '23, 17:39
Robbo87 wrote: Feb 19th, '23, 16:05 That looks a handy set of extractor sockets. I might have to indulge.
They are mighty handy.
Irwin do 2 sets of 5 to cover all normal sizes. And they do bite in very very hard which is brilliant.

I have abused mine and then some. Wouldn't be without a set now.
Cheers. As a dyed in the wool bodger this is something I NEED! :)):

Re: Help … knackered button head hex bolt!

Posted: Mar 13th, '23, 19:10
by DaveH
Robbo87 wrote: Feb 16th, '23, 11:58 Hmm . . . . . Is there room to dremel two flats on opposite sides of the screw head and then get an open ended spanner (or, in extremise, a good set of mole grips) at it?
Or, grind off the whole screw head (broke screw extractor and all), then drill out . . . . and rethread to one size bigger i.e. M5 to M6.
Or, ---------- // ------------------- ------------- // --------------- ---- // ------ . . . . to whatever size needed to accommodate a through bolt and backnut.
Or, ---------- // ------------------- ------------- // ----------------- ----- // ------- . . . . and fit a M4, M5 or M6 'Rivnut' - I have these, they're a godsend in situations like this. If you want to go down this route, I can do that at mine for you.
Hiya Phil … I gave the Dremel a go and there isn’t enough room to get in there … is the offer still open to bring it over to yours for more drastic measures??

Re: Help … knackered button head hex bolt!

Posted: Mar 14th, '23, 17:43
by Robbo87
DaveH wrote: Mar 13th, '23, 19:10
Robbo87 wrote: Feb 16th, '23, 11:58 Hmm . . . . . Is there room to dremel two flats on opposite sides of the screw head and then get an open ended spanner (or, in extremise, a good set of mole grips) at it?
Or, grind off the whole screw head (broke screw extractor and all), then drill out . . . . and rethread to one size bigger i.e. M5 to M6.
Or, ---------- // ------------------- ------------- // --------------- ---- // ------ . . . . to whatever size needed to accommodate a through bolt and backnut.
Or, ---------- // ------------------- ------------- // ----------------- ----- // ------- . . . . and fit a M4, M5 or M6 'Rivnut' - I have these, they're a godsend in situations like this. If you want to go down this route, I can do that at mine for you.
Hiya Phil … I gave the Dremel a go and there isn’t enough room to get in there … is the offer still open to bring it over to yours for more drastic measures??
Of course. Can you get to Ottery during the day? Make it early-ish p.m. if you can't. Thursday, Friday or Saturday suits me. I'm not weather dependant as have a heated garage :D .
If possible can you bring a cordless drill pls? My faithful Makita has blown its battery and a replacement won't be with me for over a week. If you don't have one, I can borrow one. Just let me know.
I'll p.m. you my address.

Re: Help … knackered button head hex bolt!

Posted: Mar 17th, '23, 22:10
by DaveH
Big thanks to Phil and his still unused Dremel extension shaft, drill bits, punches and magic hammer.

Job jobbed and my Africa Twin now has a little bit of Italian to her :-)

Re: Help … knackered button head hex bolt!

Posted: Mar 18th, '23, 15:21
by Robbo87
You're welcome Dave, glad we sorted it. Your Africa Twin will be henceforth known as a Hondaprilia of course :)): .

For the record, despite all the technological wizardry and tools available we cured the issue c/o a WW2 US army-issue centre punch, a mark 2 ball pein hammer (probably also of 1940's vintage, I've had it forever :D ) and a mark 1 eyeball.
Never forget the old saying folks (the one that Roy invented - probably) 'The art of bodge, it never fails'.

Re: Help … knackered button head hex bolt!

Posted: Mar 18th, '23, 18:13
by royb
Often forgotten, in many sizes, a hammer is a useful tool.