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Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 19:57
by TLS-Moose
Well Dave, you are not likely to see too many others, there's only a half dozen or so production ones in existance I beleive ......

It strikes me that there is a lot of hot air over nothing here - I too read the original post and deemed it a rather generic slant, tarring all sports-bike riders with the same brush based on the latest of an obvious serious of incidents involving our haples hero. There again, if one's motor bicycling skills are so good, said hapless hero was no doubt making full use of his (no doubt superiorilly (sp :? ) placed) mirrors and thus able to (rightly or wrongly) move to one side and avoid the potential contact caused by aforesaid sports-bike riders ineptitude.

Following the near contact incident, the fact that you passed them is slightly irrelevant - they may have been having discourse on their correct route following the (one presumes) junction the traffic was cueing for. Our Voyager rider, knowing what direction he wished to follow, was thus able to make better progress at that point - just as you would have had they pulled over for fuel, a ciggy stop, or a cup of coffee....... You don't mention if they passed you (Mr FJS) again further down the road - one would assume that if they didn't, my first hypothesis could be correct :?

As for Ego boost, why do you ride (drive?) the vehicle that you do - is it because it represents an engineering pinacle? I doubt it. Is it because it is different, makes people look twice, has people pointing fingers? I bet whilst you may not want to admit it, there is (just a little) bit of that isn't there ?

When FF's were pushed most publicly (ad-infinitum by the likes of Malcolm Newell, the DiFazio's, Paul Blezard, Royce Creasey, etc.,) in the late 70's / early 80's they were up against bikes running 100/19 and 130/17 tyres on spindly little 36 or 38mm tele-hydraulic forks. Things have moved a long way since then - engineering skills have improved, as has production metalurgy, and thus quirky engineering backwaters such as the quasar/voyager are created... I've never had the privelge ( :shock: ) of riding either Quasar or Voyager, but I did once have a go on a Foale Q2, and found it oddly disconcerting. I also happen to know of someone who has recently aquired one (as does Age if he keeps his eye's open :wink: ).

Anyhooo, I digress, the point I was trying to make, Mr FJS, is that you had an unfortunate incident. We all do now and again. Last year a car hit mine so hard it pushed me 80' down the road even though I had my foot on the brake and the handbrake was on. Likewise I have unfortunately been the cause of accidents in the past. No one is blameless, but I do try to refrain from sterotyping those that impinge upon me. Not all teenagers are unintelectual, spotty, hoody-wearing ne'er-do-wells, not all BMW riders are beardy Sam Brown wearing pipe smokers, not all Sports-bike riders are inconsiderate.

Have a Nice Day - I have, whilst out riding my bike (not sure if it's still considered a sports-bike nowadays :roll: ) :D

Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 19:59
by TLS-Moose
And whilst I wrote the above, in between reading my youngest a bed-time story, two more pages have been added :lol: :lol: :lol:

I was referring to Dave's post back on page 10 :oops:

Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 20:02
by jim1979
Its just keeps on getting better!!

Have any of you actually seen the full size picture of his bathtub?

Image

Cant wait to wheelie past this with inches to spare, putting lives in danger is the hope of an adrenaline buzz :twisted:

Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 20:09
by clunk
After reading through several pages of posts since I was last in this thread, I'm a bit disappointed in how this thread degenerated into a mud slinging match.

Neither side comes out looking good, all a bit immature really. :(

Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 20:10
by FJSRiDER
AlexG wrote:Ah, I see where you are going with it now, but if you are suggesting that having one's headlight on is a sign, then surely the same must be true of the opposite state i.e. the headlight being off.
Yes.
AlexG wrote:For this to be valid the different states must have a different meaning - which they do not.
I think they do.
AlexG wrote:Sure changing the state of a headlight (i.e. flashing) can provide information and thus be a sign, but I would still contend that your use of semiotics on this occasion is incorrect.
I'm not able to go there right now - but this is an interesting tangent to develop.

Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 20:17
by AlexG
FJSRiDER wrote:
AlexG wrote:For this to be valid the different states must have a different meaning - which they do not.
I think they do.
How so?
Some people can chose to have their light either on or off, others have no choice but have them on. With no clear consistency how can anyone draw any reliable conclusions from the state of the headlight and thus treat it as a sign of something :?

Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 20:28
by Dave
AlexG wrote:
FJSRiDER wrote:
AlexG wrote:For this to be valid the different states must have a different meaning - which they do not.
I think they do.
How so?
Some people can chose to have their light either on or off, others have no choice but have them on. With no clear consisitency how can anyone draw any reliable conclusions from the state of the headlight and thus treat it as a sign of something :?
When my headlight is on, it means there is a lunatic on board :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 21:04
by Funky
From previous threads posted on here and also links provided by cheggers i think it was, (sorry if i'm wrong) it appears that you (FJS) have a history of this behaviour maybe for a number of reasons:

From a behavioural perspective you crave attention. Either positive or negative, it matters not to you and causing arguments is a tried and tested method you employ to receive this attention which serves a a positive reinforcement for your antagonistic behaviour so the best method to remedy this would be to ignore you.

From a psychoanalytic/jungian perspective you create these incidences inorder to demonstrate a superiority over others, in this case your verbal prowess and maybe intellect. This serves to massage your ego, protecting you from the realisation of your other shortcomings and serves as a defence mechanism. To remedy this I suggest some self actualisation exercises.

From a social perspective these incidences can be viewed as a lack of correct socialisation, most likely through the brownian motion of society. However whithout knowing your social history it would be difficult to say whether you were popular at school or an apparent recluse and the extent to which this has impacted upon you.

I'm currently in favour of the behaviourist perspective as it is supported by your choice of vehicle. I'll keep an eye on things and keep you posted. :D

Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 21:13
by Gandy
Haven't got a clue what you said Funky, but I am impressed! :D

Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 21:28
by FJSRiDER
Gandy wrote:Haven't got a clue what you said Funky, but I am impressed! :D
He didn't say anything.

'brownian motion of society' indeed. :roll: ('Brownian Motion' is the observation of the physical phenomenon of minute particles in a fluid that move about randomly)

And if really 'best method to remedy this would be to ignore' do tell me why they posted anything?

Still, if it impressed you at least one brain cell was exercised eh?

Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 21:36
by age
FJSRiDER wrote:
Gandy wrote:Haven't got a clue what you said Funky, but I am impressed! :D
He didn't say anything.

'brownian motion of society' indeed. :roll: ('Brownian Motion' is the observation of the physical phenomenon of minute particles in a fluid that move about randomly)

And if really 'best method to remedy this would be to ignore' do tell me why they posted anything?

Still, if it impressed you at least one brain cell was exercised eh?

Ok you had your warning so as a pathetic member of the admin on SWB I hear by declair your Banned!

good bye


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Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 21:37
by BEE
Maybe brownian motion meant you [fjs] like the wrong un!? as suggested in madbs previous post!
PEACE AND GOODWILL TO ALL

Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 21:41
by Funky
Brownian motion is indeed physics, how the particles bounce off eachother in a random fashion, I used it to describe how people 'bounce' off eachother in a social manner. Sorry for the confusion to everyone, but I wanted to confuse him and shut him, and the dictionary he keeps beside himself, up

Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 21:45
by speedy(delboy)
Can this shit be deleted now :?:

Posted: Apr 9th, '06, 21:46
by BEE
:D :D :D